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Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:45 am
by PoshTwit
Darren C wrote:Cif cream, my best kept secret.

Supermarket home brand 89p

Ideal for tar spots, baked on brake dust on alloys, baked on squashed flies in summer, cleaning rust stains & spots off Chrome and cleaning light colour leather interiors. :D
Please do not do this on your paintwork, painted alloys or leather!

You will abrade the paint on your bodywork and wheels and after a few applications can start to notice damage.

Leather upholstery..... how can I put this.......

Modern automotive leather is best thought of as being treated in the same way as your bodywork. The top-grade animal hide is boiled, stretched and scraped to a uniform thickness. Then a filler coat is applied to disguise any imperfections (scars, disfigurements, etc) before the colour is sprayed on followed by a protective 'lacquer'.

Any abrasives will wear away these coatings and before long you will be in a situation where you need someone like me to come and restore your seats.

(Not that I mind, I just get the impression that people wouldn't want to throw money at me unnecessarily.....)

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:41 am
by Roger Pennington
PoshTwit wrote: Any product that dissolves tar will affect a natural wax or polymeric product. It will most likely not completely remove it (the only sure fire way to do this is to use a light abrasive compound) but it will weaken it.

Given that you would probably only do a full decontamination involving such a product on a maximum of a quarterly basis then re-applying your protection afterwards should be done as a matter of course.
Thanks Rich, that's more or less what I expected, but it wasn't really clear in the product description I found on the web. :)

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:13 pm
by Darren C
Been using Cif (formally Jif) for over 40 years on everything from Rolls,Bentley Ferrari, Porsche, Aston down to my works van & Scimitar.

Not had a single issue with it.

It's all down to how you use it.

Thanks for the data sheet,

You can see the main ingredient is Chalk dust, which is where the "abrasive" name comes from in the name. (far less abrasive than say a clay bar)
The second is just a dilution of salt (which you find in most soaps unless PH neutral)
The third is the cleaning agent which is there to soften greases etc. This is the MAIN ingredient in most Automotive cleaners like all the Armourall trim cleaners that you pay a fortune for.

Most quality modern car polish (autoglym, etc) are made of what is known as diminishing abrasives which break down into further smaller particles as they are worked on the paint thus getting finer and finer the more they are “polished” into the paint.
This avoids the need to go through varying steps of abrasiveness in different bottles to achieve a highly polished look. This can be Fullers Earth or chalk!

Don't get hung up on the word "Abrasive" 99% of car cleaning products contain it.

If you ever get bored, try googling the data sheets of your favorite car cleaning products....there are far, far worse nasties in some of them compared to cif :wink:

It's personal choice as to what you feel comfortable with. There's nothing in Cif unless you apply with a scotchbrite, or rub and rub and rub endlessly that will cause any instant damage :wink:

The funny thing is...I don't think anyone would have batted an eyelid if I'd suggest using a little T-cut to remove tar spots :lol:

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:48 pm
by Old and Slow
Eee, when I were a lad, picking the melted tar from between t'cobblestones to mek arra'eads, me Mam used lard to get it off me 'ands, clothes, out of mi 'air and the like.
Might need to warm it up first, though.

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:12 pm
by DarrylWebb
Another vote for White Spirit and elbow grease.

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:27 pm
by ferritt
Diesel works well

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:50 pm
by AJL Electronics
Darren C wrote: The funny thing is...I don't think anyone would have batted an eyelid if I'd suggest using a little T-cut to remove tar spots :lol:
Then you would be wrong. T-Cut is the WD-40 of body products. Promises a lot by hype and clever advertising, but gives very little benefit plus the chemical additives that I wouldn't want near any paintwork of mine. Smell it, then compare that with a real compund from 3M or Farecla.

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:31 pm
by gtcse8
Bloody Ell Old an Slow
OOp ere int Yorkshire villages we neva ad any tar tween t stones, we scrapped it oop as soon as council waggon laid it an saved it int bucket to light fires wi.

That was afore mad Maggie came an closed allt pits down.

Allt posh twits oop ere now ave wood burnin stoves and release all the carbons back ita air that the trees tuk out while growin.

Eeeee wen I were a lad.

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:43 pm
by reliant-reviver
Cream cleanered a few old bangers in my time, but alwaya regarded it as a last resort for rotten paintwork. By the feel of it though it does have an initial grittyness that surely introduces a relatively servere level of scratching?

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:29 pm
by *JP*
I'll not bother with the Yorkshire dialect but years ago I did know a tightwad from that part of the world who didn't buy car polish and used paraffin instead...which,come to think of it,would probably be a good tar remover!

The "when I were a lad bit" is that I well remember in the late fifties being sent to the shop on a regular basis to fetch a gallon of paraffin which stayed at two bob(10p) for years and years...not a clue how much it is now?

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:04 pm
by gtcse8
jp, paraffin is 60pL if bought in bulk, I use it in my large ultrasonic cleaning tank for de greasing all the stuff I re furbish.

I remember getting the "Blue" stuff to put in our Aladdin heaters in the kitchen and outhouses.

It does remove tar very well and Peter Freeman did tell me a tale about an old guy he knew who used paraffin to darken the paintwork on his newly painted car

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:58 pm
by Datsundrew
Brake cleaner works well.

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:40 am
by Coupe Racing
Datsundrew wrote:Brake cleaner works well.
and can remove paint too :D

Re: Tar remover recommendations

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:00 am
by AJL Electronics
Rarely. The only time I have seen that was on recently sprayed acrylic primer. However, it is right to suggest caution with anything aggressive, applied to the bodywork.

Slow panel wipe is worth having in the garage for cleaning bodywork.