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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by Taggers » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:41 pm

Will do, Geoff.


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by Oldtimer » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:43 pm

Has anyone any thoughts on the torque figure of the bolts 7/16 UNF that hold the two halfs of a Lockheed caliper together. Before anyone jumps down my throat and says these should not be seperated, I put that instruction in the same box as ' Take it to your nearest Reliant dealer!!



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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by scimjim » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:48 pm

welcome to the forum :-)

split them a couple of times and always done up to FT with loctite low torque threadlock.


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:51 pm

Welcome to the forum :D If there's no torque figure given in the manual (probably for the reason given) then there will be a "standard" torque figure for the size of bolt (dependant on it's tensile strength rating). These can be found on the web by googling for them. (or Jim's method should be ok too).


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by scmarf » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:04 pm

:?: What are the figures for the SS1 front suspension? I saw someone on the forum suggest 150lbft for the hub nut but what about the rest? I have the manuals but cannot see anything in there (let me know if I have missed it). Presumably I could buy a Haynes Chevette manual but it seems a bit OTT just for some torque figures.


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by scimjim » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:44 pm

from the Chevette manual (lbft/Nm):

upper wishbone: 59/80
lower wishbone: 49/68
upper balljoint: 30/41
anti-roll bar mounts: 15/21

Hub nut is obviously different to Chevette but for those with a PH conversion the manual says 20lbft/27Nm then loosen until you can get a 0.001-0.004"/0.02-0.10mm feeler blade between nut & washer - then split pin.


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by scimjim » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:35 pm

Other SS1 torque figures from the manual (lbft):
REAR SUSPENSION
rear shock absorber lower: 50-60
trailing arm to chassis: 110-120
no figures given for rear shock absorber upper bolt (and the manual seems to think it's a nut?) or rear anti-roll bar mounting clamps
prop shaft: 42-49
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exhaust downpipe: 27.5-32.5
inlet manifold: 11.8-14.8
carb: 8.9-15.5
thermostat housing: 5.2-7.4
main bearing cap: 66.4-73.8
big end bearing caps: 19.2-24.3
oil pump: 5.9-8.1
oil pump pickup pipe to block: 11.8-14.8
oil pump pickup pipe to pump: 5.9-8.9
rear oil seal carrier: 5.9-8.1
flywheel: 61.2-66.4
crankshaft pulley: 73.8-84.8
cylinder head: 18, 41, 90 deg, 90 deg.
cam thrust plate: 7.4-11.1
camshaft pulley: 39.8-43.5
cambelt tensioner: 11.8-14.8
water pump: 5.2-7.4
rocker studs: 7.4-11.1
rocker arms: 15.5-18.4
rocker cover: 4.4-5.9
timing cover: 5.2-6.6
fuel pump: 3.7-5.2
engine mounting bracket to block: 18-21
engine mounting bracket to rubber: 15-18
alternator pivot and adjuster arm: 18-22
GEARBOXES
bellhousing to box: 50.5-64.5
bellhousing to engine: 30-36
pressure plate to flywheel: 15-18
guide sleeve to box: 15-18
extension housing to box: 25.2-33.1
top cover: 15-18
reverse light switch: 0.7-1.5
selector interlock mechanism: 12.5-15
oil filler plug: 23.8-29.5 (good luck torquing that in situ :-))
5th gear 12 sided collar nut: 86.5-108
5th gear locking plate: 15-18.7
selector lever to extension housing: 15-18.7
REAR AXLE
rear cover: 33-44
oil filler plug: 25-33
crown wheel to diff hosing bolts: 58-62
drive pinion bearing nut: 103 max
pinion flange: 95-110
bearing housing locking plate: 14-18
hub nut: 203.5-244 (called "axle nut" in the rear axle section of the manual)
diff to carrier: 51-66


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:57 pm

And worth adding in connection with the hub nut, unlike standard taper roller bearings, if the split pin holes don't line up, you don't slacken it off to the preceding split pin hole, you tighten it to the next one.


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by scimjim » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:05 pm

also worth pointing out that the hub nut (in red above) is the REAR hubs - I don't know where the front hub figure came from as Reliant never completed the workshop manual, so there is no front suspension section :twisted:


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:13 pm

No that's right, I don't think I've ever seen an official, first-hand, "Reliant" figure for that? There have been a few mentioned on the forum, but I don't know the ultimate source?


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by AJL Electronics » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:50 am

GrahamWalker wrote:Tightening Torques SE5 SE5a SE6/a - - SE6b 2.8

Main Bearing Bolts 55 to 60 lb - - 90 to 104 lb
There seems to be a discrepancy here. I am putting together the engine for Ruby and Tan and the mains have 7/16" UNC bolts. As I got to 80 Lbs/ft, one of them let go. I have a spare engine in bits but the bolts for that are 1/2" UNC.

My opinion is that the "revised" torque setting is only for the 1/2" UNC, so I now have a set of stuffed main bearing bolts.


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by AJL Electronics » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:51 am

Looking again, perhaps I didn't read that right? The red figures are for the Cologne?


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:46 am

AJL Electronics wrote:Looking again, perhaps I didn't read that right? The red figures are for the Cologne?
Yes, that's how I'd read it - the red figures are Cologne.

However........ that's not all. I don't have any direct experience of the cologne, but I do have the Cologne Supplement in my collection, so I had a look in there. The figure given for the mains is indeed 90 - 104 as listed, *but* the Cologne engine figures in the supplement are given in Newton/metres not foot/pounds and if the online converter is right, 90 - 104 Nm equals 66.4 - 76.7 lbs/ft :(
Looking at a few other figures, I think that may be true for all the engine figures?


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by AJL Electronics » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:36 pm

Thankyou Roger. That makes sense. Why do they have to tamper with perfectly good measurements? You know that a bag of spuds at 12 inches is 50Lb/ft, but this Newton business is meaningless.


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Re: Useful Torque Wrench Settings

Post by AJL Electronics » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:42 pm

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