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Post by scimjim » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:19 pm

As part of the laws being introduced pre-Brexit, UK is having to sign up to the Vienna convention that we’ve tried to skirt around for years. If we don’t sign up now, we won’t be able to drive our cars and trucks etc across EU borders without huge problems.

One of the clauses is trailer registration (anything over 750kg). It was mooted 30 years ago when the EU was formed (Maastricht treaty time) but not implemented on anything other than commercial trailers in UK. Now it seems as if it might come into law, the question is - how will they deal with legacy trailers?

Another point is that it will almost certainly be the end of A frames once and for all, even those with braking systems.

Haulage Permits and Trailer Registration Bill 2018.

Explanatory Notes extract:

Part 2: Trailer Registration
Policy Background

42 The UK’s proposed ratification of the 1968 Vienna Convention on Road Traffic (“the 1968 Convention”) will ensure that, after exit day, UK drivers will continue to be able to drive in all EU countries. A consequence of ratification is that unregistered trailers could be turned away at the borders of other countries who have ratified the 1968 Convention. Therefore, for operational reasons, a trailer registration scheme needs to be implemented.

43 The Bill, therefore, also enables the Secretary of State to introduce a trailer registration scheme. The powers under the Bill will enable: the registration of trailers (including issuing documents and administering the scheme – e.g. changing keepers); registration marks (more commonly known as registration numbers) to be assigned and reassigned; fees to be charged for providing these services; and rules to be introduced regarding the carrying of registration documents and the formatting and placement of registration plates. Offences (summary only) may also be created by regulations.

Clause 12: Trailer registration

44 Clause 12 enables the Secretary of State, through regulations, to institute and maintain a register of trailers. These regulations may provide for mandatory or voluntary registration and additional provisions that may be required or relevant to operating the register (under subsection (2)). In particular, regulations may be made in relation to the form and contents of the register, the registration process and the transfer, surrender or destruction of registration documents. Further relevant provisions may also be made. This clause defines a trailer as anything on wheels which is intended or adapted to be pulled by a motor vehicle. (the only hope for A frames is this line “adapted to be pulled by a motor vehicle” - the problem will be registration if the car is already registered, can it also be registered as a trailer?)


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Post by Corky » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:49 pm

I assume the 750kg refers to laden weight?


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Post by scimjim » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:11 pm

Sorry, I forgot the link to the bill here

And explanatory notes here


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Post by reliant-reviver » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:41 pm

Suppose I shall watch this with interest given my A crane setup.
One might argue it's not a trailer at all. Just a car being controlled by remote means!


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Post by scimjim » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:47 pm

A frame manufacturers and users (and I mean regular users who tow cars behind motor homes for example, not those of us that occasionally move a car from a to b a little further than the law suggests :-)) originally used the argument that their car became a trailer when connected to an A frame with the required braking systems etc - now see how fast they try and back-pedal :)


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Post by scimjim » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:08 pm

Corky wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:49 pm
I assume the 750kg refers to laden weight?
Obviously. That’s hidden in the Vienna Convention that this bill relates too though:

"ARTICLE 35
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1. (a) In order to be entitled to the benefits of this Convention, every motor vehicle in international traffic, and every trailer, other than a light trailer, coupled to a motor vehicle shall be registered by a Contracting Party or a subdivision thereof, and the driver of the motor vehicle shall carry a valid certificate of such registration ..."

A light trailer is defined as having a permissible maximum mass not exceeding 750kg.


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Post by Alan SS1 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:51 pm

scimjim wrote:
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A light trailer is defined as having a permissible maximum mass not exceeding 750kg.
Do they deal in any way with 'old' stuff? ie legacy, prove when it was built, pre 1990 etc eg old trailer from 1985 used on rare days to collect gravel / sand / windows / larger car parts ?

no idea what 'max' gross weight would be, I only used to put 500 - 600kg of gravel or sand in it from local quarry !! Reckoned anything more was pushing it even if it was only three miles each way, and pretty sure a Passat estate axle was only ever going to be man-enuf for that sort of load :wink:

EDIT, if it only affects when leaving the UK then I don't need to worry . . . . . :D


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Post by scimjim » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:19 pm

Not sure what the plans are for legacy trailers yet but it will undoubtably be enforceable in UK whether you’re indigenous species or otherwise, likewise in mainland Europe.


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Post by Oldconn » Wed May 16, 2018 4:50 pm

The Brexit team has issued a discussion document which concerns Haulage & Trailers, proposed legislation:

We do not intend to require registration of any trailers that are used solely within the UK. Mandatory registration will apply solely for international travel to, or through, countries which have ratified the 1968 Convention. Mandatory registration will primarily apply to commercial trailers weighing over 750kg. Our intention is also to apply mandatory registration to larger non-commercial trailers weighing over 3,500kg undertaking such journeys, though this is an issue on which we are seeking industry views. This higher weight threshold for non-commercial trailers will exclude almost all leisure user caravans and horse trailers. This legislation will not introduce an annual tax for trailers.


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