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Re: Just fitted an EFL 90 oil filter ..

Post by Scimher » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:56 am

johnbull wrote:Wix filters are known for affecting oil pressure, I won't use them for anything we were buying them in from suppliers at low cost for example a4 TDI filters costing us 1.10 we won't stock wix now.
...That explains a lot - thanks for confirming something that I've thought since I did the oil change nearly a year ago, now.. :cry: ..hence my comment about an oil change being imminent.. :D



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Re: Just fitted an EFL 90 oil filter ..

Post by Tupperware » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:09 pm

AJL Electronics wrote:So far nobody can explain how the genuine filter doesn't affect the pressure loss when hot
Here is some blurb gleamed from Ford's website re: their Motorcraft filters
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Silicone anti-drain back valves

• Help prevent oil from draining out of the filter and engine when the engine is not running

• Resist the aging effects that an engine’s high heat can cause

• Silicone, available in many Motorcraft® oil filter anti-drain back valves, is superior to nitrile rubber, which can become brittle over time


Large media area - Provides optimal capacity and efficiency

Fluted case end - Helps make removal easier

Well bonded end plates - Help keep consistent pleat spacing

Perforated steel center tube - Helps prevent collapse under pressure



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Post by The Dog » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:22 pm

Anti Drain tube present in FRAM oil filter I have tested as per the Motorcraft version - there are of course filters out there that do not have an anti drain tube and are used for these applications - avoid - still it's knowing which ones. I have checked on FRAM's sourcing of these items and it has changed a couple of times - due to the demand at one point it was sourced from a a supplier that did not have an anti drain tube - maybe the batch made it's way to some of the members here BUT for sure the current FRAM version has one and is correct for these fitments/applications


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Post by Eric2205 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:06 am

Hello,

This year I made more kms than I had planned with my Se5a: 15 000 kms. My Wolseley and my Spitfire are out of order I did all the rallys with my Scimitar).
I change my oil and oil filter every 5000 miles.
In fact I change the oil and filter as soon as I notice that the oil pressure is lower than usual when I make a long journey.
I use Schell 15W40 mineral oil and K & N oil filter.
During the last oil change I did not have K & N stock, so I used what I found: a Borg & Beck BFO 4085 filter.
I do not like at all how he positioned on the engine.

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I had never noticed such a gap between the engine and the filter.
Also I will probably change my filter before the next rally.
I currently have a Mann Filter W916 / 1 filter in stock, but reading this post I may purchase an original Motorcraft EFL90. Must it be obligatorily white? At Burton Power he only sells EFL 90 black?

Thank you in advance for your expert opinion



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Post by TrevorG » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:40 am

I must admit to using the analogy that the car has mechanics like a human body. They are kept healthy and moving by it's blood (oil), which in turn is pumped by the heart (oil pump) and filtered by the kidneys (oil filter).
Now, I'm yet to meet a guy who buys spare blood and kidneys from cheap suppliers....I suppose they exist.....but why would you?? 🤔



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Post by scimjim » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:06 pm

Are you sure that the rubber seal from the old filter didn’t stick to the block (so you have two seals on there)?


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Post by steveden » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:19 pm

I think you will get better results if you use classic 20w50 oil rather than 14w40 which is mainly a diesel fleet oil.
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Just fitted an EFL 90 oil filter ..

Post by philhoward » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:29 pm

steveden wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:19 pm
I think you will get better results if you use classic 20w50 oil rather than 14w40 which is mainly a diesel fleet oil.
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I wouldn’t label all 15W40 oils as diesel fleet oils? You can get them for petrol engines, Diesel engines or both?

If it’s a recently rebuilt engine, 15W40 should be fine although 20W50 is the original spec (although oil technology has come a long way in the last 50 years).


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Post by Eric2205 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:46 pm

TrevorG wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:40 am
I wouldn’t label all 15W40 oils as diesel fleet oils? You can get them for petrol engines, Diesel engines or both?

If it’s a recently rebuilt engine, 15W40 should be fine although 20W50 is the original spec (although oil technology has come a long way in the last 50 years).
I agree with you, no cheap suppliers !



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Post by Eric2205 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:47 pm

scimjim wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:06 pm
Are you sure that the rubber seal from the old filter didn’t stick to the block (so you have two seals on there)?
I'm sure, I clean the engine before fitted the new filter



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Post by Eric2205 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:53 pm

philhoward wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:29 pm
steveden wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:19 pm
I think you will get better results if you use classic 20w50 oil rather than 14w40 which is mainly a diesel fleet oil.
Steve D
I wouldn’t label all 15W40 oils as diesel fleet oils? You can get them for petrol engines, Diesel engines or both?

If it’s a recently rebuilt engine, 15W40 should be fine although 20W50 is the original spec (although oil technology has come a long way in the last 50 years).
The engine of my Scimitar was rebuilt 50 000 kms ago and the prior owner use 15W40 oil
friend of mine who have TVR 3000 with V6 Essex use the same oil 15W40
But lot of friends use 20W50 for their classic cars

Question : could you tell me if I must find EFL 90 white or EFL 90 black from burton power is a good filter



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Post by scimjim » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:56 pm

I don’t think they make white EFL90 filters any more.


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Post by Eric2205 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:13 pm

All the white EFL 90 filters that I find are all indicated as NOS
And I think a filter is a part that can lose its qualities over time



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Post by scimjim » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:27 pm

If you do find any - buy them. People with concours Fords will pay a lot of money for them.


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Post by Oldconn » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:42 pm

I have been using Mann filters in all my cars including the Scimitar for at least 20 years. No problems. I think all this fuss about genuine Ford EFL 90 is a load of bull.


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