Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by AJL Electronics » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:13 am

Or Panama. I have found a supplier for that colour too.


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:58 am

Assuming it's the original paint, then the chassis number will give the definitive answer :)


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by schwert » Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:09 am

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Hi there, dunno if this is the right spot for my question, just give it a try:

I have a 1973 Reliant Scimitar SE5a (ex DBO771L) which still carries it's original paint in decent condition (see photo).

OK, it has the usual chips and spiderwebs (since GRP technology those days was new to v´car industry) which are patina so I'd like to spotrepair. I have done a few trials with acrylic 2K Systems, but the stuff is a. too glossy and b. too hard. Great runner btw....nothing beats british cars from the 70's.

Now the original paint seems to be some sort of thermoplastic stuff which gets soft with heat, e.g. when sanding too hard. I have tried to get some advice as to where i can get hold of a compatible paint system, but all i learned is that this type of paint must have been popular in the 60's and 70's (particularly in Britain and the US) but has been abandoned due to massive H&S issues plus the fact that better (??) system came along. The good news is that my scimi is white, so i do not have the problems with blisters and things caused by excessive heat in the sun. And the paint is just too good to sand it all down for a respray and finally I want to preserve that special kind of gloss which I would call a "soft" or "greasy" gloss as opposed to modern high gloss. SE5a Scimitars in HighGloss finish simply look overdone to me.

Any hints? Softening agent? Cellular paint? Matting additives? No idea.

I had a car paintshop find out the colour with his fancy equipment and it turned out that "Rover Old English White" (batch on tin reads: Permasolid 275 / 1205 Rover Old English White / 10684 / 3703072) is a near 100% match. Although the colour was called "Everest White" in the brochures dating 1973.....the Forum tells me: "Everest white (04527) year used from 69-77 ICI Ref DE88". Nothing to be found with that information.

Looking forward to some good advice (can offer profound GRP/composites knowhow in return!), kind regards from Hamburg


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by jag12 » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:19 am

Don't Know If this site has been mentioned before but there is a lot of cross reference information on it.

https://sites.google.com/site/fifersrel ... lours/home


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:26 am

jag12 wrote:Don't Know If this site has been mentioned before but there is a lot of cross reference information on it.

https://sites.google.com/site/fifersrel ... lours/home
Yes, it's on page 5 of this thread :)


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by scimjim » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:33 am

Welcome Andreas. Old English white comes in a huge range of shades, so if it matches your car that's great - it may just be my screen but that doesn't look like Everest white to me?


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by Ollieoldbeard » Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:52 pm

Thanx, It does look the same, if not very similar.. Where can you get these mixed, are they cellulose, 2 pack or water based, any idea ??



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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by scimjim » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:04 pm

It would have been celly in 79 - any good paint shop should be able to mix it for you.


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by Roger Pennington » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:44 pm

Agreed, cars are being damaged and repaired all over the country, so the chances are there will be someone who supplies paint, not far from you. My local place will make up aerosols to match, as well as supplying larger quantities.


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by Ollieoldbeard » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:37 pm

ive got a 1979 GTE in yellow, can anyone confirm is it in fact Aztec Yellow ? were the original paints done in cellulose or 2 pack, and what is best ??
is there a number or code for the colour, and where can i get it, and does anyone know what would be the best base colour for it.... thanx



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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by scimjim » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:41 pm

originally celly - post your chassis number and we'll tell you what colour it is/was.


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by Ollieoldbeard » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:57 pm

Chassis No = SCD 1820619K005325

Incidently theres a stamped number on RHSide (standing at the front) 4496 (13) anyone know what that stands for, is it the number off the production line ?
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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by scimjim » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:39 pm

The "battery box number" on the LHS is presumed to be a body code but we're not sure.

SCD is Reliant
182 is RHD, manual overdrive with PAS
061 is Aztec (yellow)
9 is 1979
K is October
005325 was the 4325th off the line (as they started at 1001)


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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by Ollieoldbeard » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:46 am

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Re: Reliant paint codes with ICI ref

Post by Ollieoldbeard » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:49 am

Thinkin of it Jim, have u any idea how many SE6a were made, as i was told it was around 4000 mark, therefore i wondering if mine was close to the last ones made by Reliant ??



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