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Post by Yojimbo » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:40 pm

Gaydon seem to have details on everything British except Reliant.



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Post by scimjim » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:51 pm

Given that the Heritage Trust was formed by BLMC and houses their records, it's easy to see why they have much of the UK car building history. BL Ltd/BL plc/Rover Group/BMC/BLVC/BLMC included through various takeovers and mergers: Unipart, Rover, Morris, Austin, mini, innocenti, Jaguar, Land Rover, MG, Triumph, Wolseley, Vanden Plas, Lanchester, Daimler, Riley, Standard, BSA, Austin-Healey, Leyland trucks, Scammel, AEC, LDV, Leyland buses, Leyland tractors, Aveling-Barford, Freight Rover, Alvis, Nuffield press, Coventry Climax (did I miss any other companies that they managed to totally asset strip and ruin with short term policies and sell offs?)


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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:00 pm

It's something that tends to be forgotten these days, but I believe at one time Reliant was Britain's largest independant motor manufacturer. It's a shame they never really get the credit for it.

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Post by stocks71 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:18 am

Renewing the tax on the Scim last year gave me that warm fuzzy feeling. Disc was passed back to me and no cash parted from my company. Joy O Joy. If Mr Blair had not capped the 25 year thing back in 98 what other freebie tax cars could we have now. Anything 84 or before?.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:03 pm

stocks71 wrote: If Mr Blair had not capped the 25 year thing back in 98 what other freebie tax cars could we have now. Anything 84 or before?.
Someone with a better memory than me may know more, but I think I'm right in saying the exemption was never actually "rolling" forwards as such. It was introduced as a pre Dec '72 (i.e. 25 year) exemption, and there was a widespread expectation that the following year the date would be moved forward 1 year, but that never happened, and the date was simply left as it was, so there wasn't actually any "capping" as such, simply a "failure to proceed" (as Rolls-Royce owners say!). In other words, the incrementing of the cut-off date was never automated.

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Post by stocks71 » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:29 am

It was just a one off rule then that has set the cut off point :). Interesting Roger. I always thought that it was rolling and that if you had a 50's car say, it would be free road tax in the 80's. I wonder who the MP was who brought forward this 25 year/pre 73 rule that has stood and hopefully shall stay stood for future years. I shall vote for him/her.

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Post by andrewcollins » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:00 am

Not sure I agree with you Roger

From what I remember this was a rolling 25 years ( I remember thinking that my GTE would becoming tax exempt in 2005 ) .... until the government froze it in 1998.

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Post by Elizabeth's dad » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:57 pm

You're right Andrew, it was a rolling 25 year exemption as introduced by the Conservatives under John Major, but it only lasted a short time before Labour came in and froze it (I think in fact it rolled over once from 1971 to 72). I believe it was because there were too many cars able to last 25 years and so the cumulative loss of income was considered too great (at least according to a comment I read by Lord Montague). As of 2010, any car registered in 1985 would have qualified and things such as Audis and Porsches were being galvanised by then so it makes some sense.


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Re: Tax Exempt

Post by Nettles » Wed May 05, 2010 9:37 pm

I’m pretty gutted about the free road tax issue.
My Se5a was registered on 29/01/73 so I’m only just outside the inclusion date.
It’s just cost me £112 for six months road tax! I can’t afford the £210 for twelve months!
I suppose I can’t complain to much because the insurance only costs me £100 fully comp with unlimited mileage for me and my wife! That’s the cheapest car I've ever insured! :lol:


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Post by philhoward » Wed May 05, 2010 9:57 pm

Nettles wrote:I’m pretty gutted about the free road tax issue.
My Se5a was registered on 29/01/73 so I’m only just outside the inclusion date.
It’s just cost me £112 for six months road tax! I can’t afford the £210 for twelve months!
I suppose I can’t complain to much because the insurance only costs me £100 fully comp with unlimited mileage for me and my wife! That’s the cheapest car I've ever insured! :lol:
I'll refer to another post on the first page:
Any GTE up to chassis number 931601 qualifies.
Does this mean your chassis number is after this?


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Re: Tax Exempt

Post by Nettles » Wed May 05, 2010 10:02 pm

Unfortunately yes my chassis number is 931637. :(


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Re: Tax Exempt

Post by CLASSICFORDSPARES » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:54 pm

Nettles wrote:Unfortunately yes my chassis number is 931637. :(
36 cars out - what a bummer

Anyway I did read ( though not sure how reliable it is ) that the Labour govt of 98 wanted to abolish the free historic tax completely but the abolishion was modified by the House of Lords as a lot of peers were members of classic car clubs and would of course be under pressure from the other members to help keep it.



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Post by philhoward » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:09 am

CLASSICFORDSPARES wrote: Anyway I did read ( though not sure how reliable it is ) that the Labour govt of 98 wanted to abolish the free historic tax completely but the abolishion was modified by the House of Lords as a lot of peers were members of classic car clubs and would of course be under pressure from the other members to help keep it.
And therein lies one of the reasons that the RSSOC is a member of the FBHVC as they lobby government on behalf of the Classic Car movement.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:38 am

For example, Lord David Steel was a classic rally competitor and is currently Hon President of the Historic Endurance Rallying Organisation.

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Re: Tax Exempt

Post by samd » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:55 am

Hi Jim,
Do I just ring the DVLA and ask them what the reg is for this chassis? Or is there a website where I can do my own search?

Many thanks.



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