RHD vs LHD

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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by Stephenl » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:43 am

Thanks for the pics.
Educate me on how the servo works all the way over there, on the other side from the master cylinder? I don't understand how it can still help??


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by scimjim » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:13 am

exactly the same way it works now mounted on the same wing as the master cylinder.


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by philipmasonfrance » Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:04 pm

I think most elements of the GTC LHD have been covered in the replies so far. Geert van Hout converted mine to LHD and did a great job. Only thing which could be better would be to have left the hand brake lever on the right side of the centre console (à la MGB where BMC never bothered to swap it over!). It is impossible to select reverse with the hand brake on which makes reverse hill starts....challenging. Fortunately it's a rare situation, but I have learnt to gently "lean" the car on the wall or car ahead when the other driver's not looking!



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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by Stephenl » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:49 pm

Seeing as this is a sticky

The answer to my question is that the servo isn't actually attached to the master by anything other than a copper pipe, so the pipe needs extended (or more to the point, replaced) to reach a LHD mounted master cylinder, apart from that there is no alteration.
My confusion was attached to a TR6 servo, I have worked on, where it is physically bolted to and integral to the master cylinder operation. This is a different mode of operation on the Scimitar (which, having rebuilt the servo, I should know, but it was a couple of years ago and I forgot).


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by scimjim » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:51 pm

isn't that what I said? :-)
scimjim wrote:....the remote brake servo (as it's name suggests) can be mounted wherever you like - it just needs an inlet manifold air feed and brake fluid from the master cylinder & reservoir to the brakes as normal.

The 6 model's servo isn't a remote unit (the master cylinder is bolted directly to it)....


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by GeminiG15 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:59 pm

when did reliant start to built "real" LHD cars for export?

that dutch (now german) one looks like beeing an original RHD, converted (as best as they could do) by the factory before export.


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by scimjim » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:01 pm

if you mean GTEs, the SE5 was available in LHD quite early on in production. Eriks old car had several later mods which made it look quite different.


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by Elizabeth's dad » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:04 pm

scimjim wrote:you could probably adapt it to a remote servo if you didn't want to reshape the LH inner wing?
Based on experience of early VW Polos, you would need two servos to cope with the 2 circuits, because the 6 has the servo direct acting it only needs one.


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by erikscimitardemon » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:22 pm

The first LHD se5 I know of is VIN# 450265, the last one is 452378. And my old car is 451690.


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by erikscimitardemon » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:45 am

It seems about 50% of all later SS1s and and K series Scimitar Sabres were LHD cars. The last SS1 built is a LHD car (#1507).
When Reliant went bust (again) in 1995, a batch of LHD Scimitar Sabres was under construction. The curator had these finished and flogged off to the German importer. He sold these cars from the trailer, at an amazing 20,000 DM (10,000 Euro).
Three cars were sold on the way to Germany in the Netherlands.

When the German trailer arrived, more LHD cars were available than the trailer could take. That explains why a few LHD Scimitar Sabres are around on UK plates. Most of those will have found an owners in continental Europe by now.


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by erikscimitardemon » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:51 am

Scimitar Sabre:
I guess it will be the same on RHD cars, but the built quality of LHD cars is appalling. I know stories of worn diffs, steering racks on 50,000 km cars. It seemed these cars had second hand, or cheaply re-conned parts as factory fitments!
Another thing is shearing off of the connection points of the rear axle. I heard this on two cars, both low mileage and careful owners. So it must be bad welding.


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by thomast » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:49 am

That explains why a few LHD Scimitar Sabres are around on UK plates. Most of those will have found an owners in continental Europe by now.

The one I bought a few years back was one of them. The owner bought it new from Reliant productionline when it was just 95% finished: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXQzsN-_Gs


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by westy » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:15 am

Nice video clip Thomas !


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by scimjim » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:47 pm

erikscimitardemon wrote:It seems about 50% of all later SS1s ......were LHD cars.
really? what's a "later SS1"?


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Re: RHD vs LHD

Post by erikscimitardemon » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:39 pm

scimjim wrote:
erikscimitardemon wrote:It seems about 50% of all later SS1s ......were LHD cars.
really? what's a "later SS1"?
The galvanised cars. So 1987 on.
Maybe it is just my choice of words, as a Dutchman :?


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